Dear friends,
I came upon this dvd of our brother Jacob Prasch giving his testimony.
It is a very honest and open message about a man who would not believe anything unless it could be proven to him.
Jacob presents and excellent message with a powerful challenge of the gospel.
Well worth watching and even downloading to pass on to your unsaved or saved friends.
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Hi Bob and maria, praise the lord, its very good to hear a testimony from a true man of God , ephesians 4 v 11 and jacob is one of the teachers, God bless you from Gwyn from wales.
Jacob is a very intelligent man. He is a fine bible teacher,perhaps one of the best there is.
If you are going to 'lock horns' with him, you had better make sure you know your stuff!
I have just come from his Moriel website and read a 'rebuttal' against a man that accused him of being 'negative' and focusing too much on errant teaching etc. (the latest article).
There is SO much false and errant teaching out there today that is accepted as sound teaching, so we do need more people like Jacob to expose them.
In the main I wholeheartedly agree with Jacob's reply, however I just feel he perhaps could be just a teensy weensy little bit more gracious!?
Jacob is NOT a pre trib man yet he is a 'good apple' on Sound Christian's Who's who of prophecy teachers' when all the others are pre-trib teachers!
I can't work that one out!
Thank you so much for sharing this. I have for some time wanted to hear Jacob's testimony, and it was such a blessing to finally hear it. I will be sharing this.
As there is constant reference on this blog to the man in question, are we to assume that he is one of your favourite preachers? If that is the case, then that obvious favoritism is certainly warranted. I had always thought this man was a wimp until I heard him preach, but boy, oh boy was I ever wrong. He certainly is powerful. If I may however, there is a slight contradiction to some of your wording in the introduction when you described his message in this way: It is a very honest and open message about a man who would not believe anything unless it could be proven to him. If you were referring to outside influences other than the word of God then I am sure that is correct. Nevertheless, as far as the word itself is concerned it is already a done deal, and we believe because God has told us in his word that it was so. Accordingly, as we live by faith, then, there is really nothing at all there that has to be proven. As far as the word of God is concerned, I am sure that Jacob has the same mindset and that there is nothing there that has to be proven to him relative to its contents. Sorry to be nit picking but I am sure we all know what you meant.
Thanks for the comments regarding Jacob. As to his not believing anything until it was proven to him; he makes it clear on the dvd that this was his stance before he became a believer.
Brother Bob; There are those who do not see your good friend Jacob in the same light as what you do. After having watched the first portion of his testimony and then going to the Alan Franklin website, where there was also praise upon praise heaped upon him for his Midrash doctrine, I decided to do a little research on the man in question. At the beginning, I went looking for some real information on the aforementioned, but instead, I happened to come across this site. http://phillyflash.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/my-response-to-mr-jacob-prasch-of-moriel-ministries/
It was not my intent to dig up dirt, so what I had found at the aforementioned site was not what I went looking for. Instead, what I went looking for was some real and valuable information so as to increase my own understanding of the end times Bible prophecies. Because Jacob seemed to be so highly recommended by both Alan and Pat Franklin, and yourself, I naturally thought that was good enough for me. However, what I had found instead were two men who are supposed to be brothers in the Lord, fighting and bickering like schoolchildren. Now it is not for up to me to become involved in what has been going on and take sides, therefore, I am not coming here and saying that either one of them is necessarily right or wrong. Nevertheless, when the Lord has already told us to turn the other cheek, there is a better world waiting for the meek; instead, when there are those who are supposed to be brothers and sisters in the Lord and on the other hand are airing their dirty laundry on the net it is not a good look at all. There really needs to be a lot more of a concerted effort done by both parties relative to just how we should treat one another. In doing so, that would allow both of these men see the errors of their ways and realize that we are being told in the word of God was to uplift and edify one another. Instead, what are they doing, attacking one another, trying to bring the other party down to the ground? There may be Christians who reading this and right now may be thinking that there is no real harm in what has been going on? If that is the case, then it may be advisable for those parties to think again. If there are those who are unsaved, and are seeing Christians carrying on in the manner described above they are going to think if that is what Christianity is all about, then I want no part of it. I have often heard it said that Christians are constantly fighting amongst each other, and it is true to a certain extent. Barry Smith had the best approach when he said if there was a part of a doctrine from another preacher that I do not agree with then he would say, well such and such teaches that but I don't. By approaching the ministry of others in such a manner, he remained completely neutral even though he may have thought the particular doctrine of whoever was completely erroneous. Regards
Bob,
Anonymous does indeed raise a very valid and vital point. Indeed we must at ALL times 'Turn the other cheek'. We lose our testimony if we engage in name calling and mudslinging. Jacob IS a very knowledgable and gifted bible teacher. I am reminded of Matthew 23.3; 'Do as they say, NOT as they do'. Jacob can indeed be most ungracious, I believe it is his major weakness, do we not all suffer? I was most relieved that Moriel removed Jacob's reply to Gideon from their website. It was indeed lacking in grace. ( I now see that Moriel has left the web! Temporarily I hope ).
Galatians 5.22-23 reminds me that 'Patience and long suffering' are two gifts of the Holy Spirit. I would remind Jacob to re-visit that scripture.
As you well know you have to be 'long suffering and patient' when replying to questions regarding the post-tribulation rapture from those whom have not received the same light that you have.
Regards Midrash,( I must confess that I don't fully understand why he majors on it ). I believe that Jacob is going down a road that is not very helpful. I believe from memory that this teaching emanates trom Ezra or Nehemiah, and it may well have some value, although I don't believe Jacob is presently giving it much credit.
'God gives grace to the humble,but resists the proud'. James 4.6, 1 Peter 5.5.
Over the forty years that I have been a Christian, I have been in and out of various churches. If there is one thing that I have found that seems to stand out over and above everything else, is that there is no church that is perfect in every way, simply because there are no people who run or attend those churches who are perfect. I guess that analogy applies to all walks of life/occupations, because everyone is a sinner and needs salvation through the atoning blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. Having said that, some of the grief that all of us have had to endure over the years from the unsaved has been horrendous. Alan and Pat Franklin are masterful writers and more importantly excellent Christians, but they do harbour certain biased anti Arab, pro Jewish attitudes that stand out like a sore thumb. Perhaps that is the reason they seem to favour the teachings of Jacob to the extent that they do. Prasch, however, is possibly a false teacher. I say “possibly” because I want to do a little more digging. What I have gotten so far is that he is into a kabbalistic hermeneutic. It is kind of a Jewish sort of Gnosticism/mysticism. He takes a reference from the word of God to “prove” that the Midrash is authoritative and thoroughly reliable, if I understand him correctly. I am not sure yet and if any of your readers have knowledge about this, I would like to hear. When you made the statement at the beginning that went "It is a very honest and open message about a man who would not believe anything unless it could be proven to him" -- did you mean that it has already been proven to him because of his belief that Midrash is authoritative and thoroughly reliable, when that may not be the instance at all?
Does anyone know why the Moriel website has been down the last 3 days? Catherine
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